I'd like to respond to the OhS post of Wed, Oct 19. My first comment is trivial; the second is not so trivial.
1. Roxie Hart did not say, "Believe what I say, not what you see." The one who said that was her low-life boyfriend who she shot.
2. The OhS comment about keeping the occipitalis flexed while at the same time contracting the frontalis, much to my amazement, might be a good idea. I've been doing it for a few days now. It really does give more resistance to the scalp muscles, but the exercise has to be done much slower this way. I still think that quicker is better. I'm not sure of this anymore though. The quicker movement of the scalp might speed up the lymphatic flow, thus getting rid of metabolic crud that accumulates in scalp tissue. But why wouldn't the slower, more pronounced, movement do the same thing.
The one thing good about not having an agenda is that you don't have to stick by traditional ideas. You can explore new ideas and see if they are productive. The OhS idea about keeping the opposing muscles partially contracted while performing the SE is a productive Idea that I misinterpreted when I first read it. If you keep both the frontalis and occipitalis muscles totally contracted, you of course have no movement. That is what confused me. OhS did not mean this though.
[VIDEO] 'Alternative' SE: fr/occ symultaneous contraction
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Re: Is really the occ/front muscles contraction *alternate*?
Dear all,
here's a short video I made where I try do to this sort of "alternative" scalp exercise - that is, contracting the frontalis *before* releasing the tension at the occipitalis. Added benefits? We don't know. But one thing I'll say is that it feels pretty good, and I've added it in my routine along with the regular and, recently, with the advanced ones.
In the video I'll do 10 seconds of occipitalis contraction only, and then, from around 0:11, a few repetitions of the alternative exercise. I hope you'll find somewhat helpful. Let me know also if the video is properly shot. I'll make more if it's too distant/blurred. Also, I am kinda
'cause in the video the scalp movement doesn't seem THAT big, but in reality it's much bigger...
https://vimeo.com/190671252
Oh, and for the ones wondering why my cellphone is covering my face... No, I'm not gonna put my ugly face on the web for everybody to see!
here's a short video I made where I try do to this sort of "alternative" scalp exercise - that is, contracting the frontalis *before* releasing the tension at the occipitalis. Added benefits? We don't know. But one thing I'll say is that it feels pretty good, and I've added it in my routine along with the regular and, recently, with the advanced ones.
In the video I'll do 10 seconds of occipitalis contraction only, and then, from around 0:11, a few repetitions of the alternative exercise. I hope you'll find somewhat helpful. Let me know also if the video is properly shot. I'll make more if it's too distant/blurred. Also, I am kinda
'cause in the video the scalp movement doesn't seem THAT big, but in reality it's much bigger... https://vimeo.com/190671252
Oh, and for the ones wondering why my cellphone is covering my face... No, I'm not gonna put my ugly face on the web for everybody to see!
Re: [VIDEO] 'Alternative' SE: fr/occ symultaneous contractio
Hi guys
everybody's talking about America today in Italy (sure you know why), so I remembered to come here.
I want to say that I have actually noticed what many people, OhS included, see in Tom's DVD. Yesterday I was doing a slow session of the SE. After the frontalis' contraction I slowly relaxed that muscle and started contracting the occipitalis, making my scalp move back. Then, before contracting again the frontalis and raising the eyebrows, I relaxed my occipitalis. In that very moment, not longer than one second, I saw my scalp moving forward and THEN I saw my eyebrows raise. Again, this paradox that scalp moves forward BEFORE the eyebrows raise is caused by the relaxation of the occipitalis. The scalp comes back to its original position before I contract the frontalis.
everybody's talking about America today in Italy (sure you know why), so I remembered to come here.
I want to say that I have actually noticed what many people, OhS included, see in Tom's DVD. Yesterday I was doing a slow session of the SE. After the frontalis' contraction I slowly relaxed that muscle and started contracting the occipitalis, making my scalp move back. Then, before contracting again the frontalis and raising the eyebrows, I relaxed my occipitalis. In that very moment, not longer than one second, I saw my scalp moving forward and THEN I saw my eyebrows raise. Again, this paradox that scalp moves forward BEFORE the eyebrows raise is caused by the relaxation of the occipitalis. The scalp comes back to its original position before I contract the frontalis.
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Re: [VIDEO] 'Alternative' SE: fr/occ symultaneous contractio
OhS, that is one tremendous video, especially the last part in which your scalp really moves. I can see both sets of your epicranial muscles, the frontalis and occipitalis, working hard powering that mobility. You are exercising your scalp effectively, there is no doubt about this. Thanks for posting it.
Re: [VIDEO] 'Alternative' SE: fr/occ symultaneous contractio
Thank you 
I'm going to post another picture of my forehead just like I did in August on my other posts, to track changes in my hairline. So far, though, I'm seeing the biggest results in terms of hair thickness (which is a great thing, I'd trade some hairline for some thickness, no doubt about it).
By the way, since yesterday I've been trying to do the alternative SE in the opposite way, that is: doing occipitalis cyclical contractions *while* keeping the frontalis contracted. Seems good as well, but it requires too much concentration to be done while doing other things. That's why most of the time, when I'm focusing on something else, I just do the regular SE. Anyway I will post another video of that maybe.
By the way, it would be interesting to find out if "old times SExercisers" have so far gained the skill of doing the SE almost automatically, not even thinking about it. That somewhat works for me (only for regular SE, or for occ/fr independent contractions), but... you know the funny thing is: I find myself doing it following the rhythm of what I'm doing! For example washing dishes, one contraction per rinse; writing at my PC, one contraction per key pressed, and so on But still it's not really interfering with what I do.
I'm going to post another picture of my forehead just like I did in August on my other posts, to track changes in my hairline. So far, though, I'm seeing the biggest results in terms of hair thickness (which is a great thing, I'd trade some hairline for some thickness, no doubt about it).
By the way, since yesterday I've been trying to do the alternative SE in the opposite way, that is: doing occipitalis cyclical contractions *while* keeping the frontalis contracted. Seems good as well, but it requires too much concentration to be done while doing other things. That's why most of the time, when I'm focusing on something else, I just do the regular SE. Anyway I will post another video of that maybe.
By the way, it would be interesting to find out if "old times SExercisers" have so far gained the skill of doing the SE almost automatically, not even thinking about it. That somewhat works for me (only for regular SE, or for occ/fr independent contractions), but... you know the funny thing is: I find myself doing it following the rhythm of what I'm doing!
For example washing dishes, one contraction per rinse; writing at my PC, one contraction per key pressed, and so on But still it's not really interfering with what I do.