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Rita
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2001 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Can someone plaese tell me what Nizoral shampoo is supposed to do? I see it advertised on several web sites but the language used to describe it is always promotional. My scalp is on the oily side and it also itches a little at times. I'm looking for a good shampoo to use a few times a week, something that will not be too harsh on my skin. Thank you
 

Tom Hagerty (Admin)
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2001 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I never used the stuff so I have no first-hand experience with it. The active ingredient in the shampoo is ketoconazole (kee-toe-KOE-na-zole). There's a 1% and a 2% version. The 1% you can get off the shelf without a prescription.

The "official" use given in the printout from the pharmacy is to fight fungus and to reduce scaling or dandruff. If you get the 2% shampoo, ask for the printout and read it because it details the possible side effects.

Beyond the official use as an antifungal agent, it is supposed to reduce the production of sebum. Some dermatologists believe that pattern baldness may be aggravated by inflammation. This inflammation in and around the hair canal might be caused by excess sebum and the bacteria that feed on it. Studies indicate that the sebaceous glands in the thinning and balding areas of scalp are usually larger than in the areas of healthy hair. The oils they produce and secrete into the hair canal are full of the organic material bacteria love. Nizoral is reputed to cut down on the sebum production and therefore on the colonies of bacteria that are sometimes evident in pattern baldness. I almost convinced myself to try it.
 

Serpentina
Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2001 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Now I've heard of Nizoral and Nioxin. Are they both anti-fungus shampoos? Are they both good for oily scalps? I hate all these products with similar names. It's confusing. On another post someone mentioned Biolage. French names sound soothing. I'm going to try this one. If I lose my hair, www.hairloss-reversible.com will hear from my lawyer.
 

Silvia Yu
Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2002 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Can Nizoral hurt the scalp if I use it to the exclusion of other shampoos? Is it best to alternate it with other shampoos? Is it OK to use it if you don't have seborreic dermatitis or when the condition has cleared up? I know it can't grow new hair, but can it prevent further hair loss?
 

Freddie
Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 06:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

You are only suppose to use nizoral a couple of times a week. That is what it says on the pamphlet for the 2% version.

At least one study shows that 2% Nizoral moderates sebum production and slightly increases hair shaft diameter and density. The study was conducted on 30+ men with androgenic alopecia notably without scalp infections.

Whether that one study (which incidentally has some experimental design flaws) is enough to prove its effacacy as a hair loss treatment is a matter of personal opinion. It will surfice to say that nizoral is an excellent anti-bacterial and anti-fungal shampoo.

I use it whenever my scalp gets to be oily which was quite frequent in the past but now only happens occassionally. I only use very little and leave it in no more than 2 mins (although the pamphlet says 5 mins).

I rotate with a regular mild shampoo that is gentle enough to use everyday - a pH neutral shampoo ( Johnsons & johnsons Baby shampoo :) I figure if its gentle enough for use on a newborn's head, its ok for me.

That said, i would not expect very much hair growth as a result of shampooing though certainly there is something to be said about a clean scalp. I've always been in awe at how homeless persons on the street who go without showering seem to have the thickest hair.
 

Tom Hagerty (Admin)
Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Freddie,

I started using Nizoral a few months ago just to test it out. I don't have dandruff so I use only a very little after my regular shampoo with the baby product you use. In the last month I've been doing a lot of research on dandruff. If you get a chance, look at my new page on the subject - Dandruff. It's kind of long because I threw everything into it.

There's an area in Chicago called Uptown where a lot of homeless people congregate. They all seem to have great hair, kind of gray and dirty, but as thick as a rug. And none of these guys wears glasses. If I were a medical researcher doing work on hair and eyes, I'd be spending my time in Uptown interviewing these people.
 

AJ
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Tom,

The reason these people have great eyes is obvious: they do not sit in front of a computer or tv for twelve hours a day or more as the average American does nowadays! No matter what people say, there can be no doubt about the ill effects of watching tv or staring at your monitor all day! In addition, computer use is less than a decade old for most people, so nobody knows the long-term effects of radiation upon your eyesight [and hair?!! :-)].

Thnking more logically, maybe these people don't have glasses because they can't afford them and don't have medical optician related insurance!!!

Okay all of the above seems to be out of place on a hair loss forum, but the reason I am writing this message is because there have been numerous studies where they have seen that people who live in forests, villages, the streets in poor countries, etc... tend not to go bald. Now a village in America or Western Europe is not the same thing, since they have access to all amenities as well as an unnecessarily healthy and fat-intensive diet. People with beautiful hair in third world countries tend to get only 10 percent of the recommended daily vitam A, B, C, D, E, F, G..... iron, protein, blah blah blah requirement as posted by the American Health Board! Isn't all this daily requirement stuff hogwash!!

My family originates from India, and most Indian men tend to have excellent hair. Those who bald, start doing so in their thirties and are generally found in the larger cities. On the other hand, Indians who settle in Western countries tend to go bald much earlier, often starting in their late teens! The same has been seen among other Asians as well as black non-Americans who settle here. Unless hair loss is a transmitted disease, the only explanation is that stress, pollution and the diet in a Western country cause hair loss. For people with a genetic predisposition to balding, living in a Western country only exacerbates the situation by making them go bald at an earlier age.

Another personal thought I have is that in Western countries, you are also exposed to a lot more pornographic material. Even worse than porn is when you consistently see semi-nude women on tv such as Britney Spears. I know that science suggests that their is no link with having sex, masturbation or having sexual thought and hair loss, but I think otherwise. Eunuchs don't go bald because they do not get a chance to ejaculate and masturbate frequently. If you masturbate frequently, your testosterone/DHT levels are bound to increase over the years.

Any thoughts? Do you think a lot of the above was stupid? I do not, and was quite serious!

AJ
 

Freddie
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

> Even worse than porn is when you consistently
> see semi-nude women on tv such as Britney
> Spears.

I'll remember to cover my eyes..
 

AJ
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

If only it were that easy!
 

Tom Hagerty (Admin)
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

AJ:

Masumi Inaba is a Japanese dermatologist who studied the diets of Japanese men for many years. He thinks that the traditional diet which consisted of fish, rice and grains, vegetables, and fruit is largely responsible for the good hair of previous generations of Japanese. He thinks that the sebaceous glands in the scalp play a large role in the initiation of male pattern baldness. He thinks that there is a positive correlation between the high levels of saturated fat in the modern urban Japanese diet and increased sebaceous gland activity. This increased sebaceous gland activity produces large amounts of 5-alpha reductase which converts circulating testosterone into DHT.

Dr. Inaba also found a higher level of cholesterol and higher blood pressure in his sample of balding men. Perhaps the Western diet and urban stress are not conducive to luxuriant hair - or bouyant health for that matter.

"Indians who settle in Western countries tend to go bald much earlier, often starting in their late teens!"

Dr. Inaba found the same to be ture about the Japanese who came to the United States and adopted the Western style of life.

I don't really have an agenda when it comes to pornography or nudity. I haven't seen any credible evidence that erotic stimulation and its attendant sexual activity promote hair loss.

"I know that science suggests that their is no link with having sex, masturbation or having sexual thought and hair loss, but I think otherwise."

I hope that you're wrong because I like sexual thoughts and activity. Several other people in the United States like sexual thoughts and activity too. I hope we are not all condemned to be bald because of our sins.
 

Freddie
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

An interesting fact is that men with baldness on the crown have higher incidences of heart disease.

Though I wonder whether this comes as a result of all the stress of losing hair and its impact on lifestyle & mood.

I see a lot of horse shoe bald men in pretty bad shape with their gut hanging out like a sack of potatoes. I guess they figure what's the point of taking care of myself if I've lost my hair. No woman will be looking my way anyway. These are generally the ones society pokes fun at.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Just shave your damn head , bald isnt bad but hanging on to scraps is.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

AJ, i think you're on to something which may be unfortunately difficult to prove. I am also very curious about the effects of sex/masturbation/porn. I have a "gut" feeling that sexual images jumpstarted my own personal hormonal development. I think that we may, to an extent, have control over our hormones. I also feel that the sexual development of 3rd world male children may be delayed because they're too busy trying to stay alive rather than think of sex. On the other hand female children are probably used as prostitutes which may explain high teen pregnancy rates.
FYI My Profile is; i'm 20 years old with a severe norwood 3 recession (it seems my hairline is vaguely arrowshaped with the arrow tip pointing forward, also i am almost certain there is no vertex balding). I am concerned with my pattern because i don't fit exactly in the norwood scale...but that's the least of my worries...
Tom, i think your site is great and i think the ideas produced by yourself and your guests are terrific! Shamefully, i haven't purchased the scalp exercise video but i've followed the directions in "my approach" the best i could and i feel good about the progress i've made in muscle control but i've only been at it for a couple weeks so no hair progress yet...however when i started experimenting with scalp exercises i "bicked" my head and currently my hair has grown in evenly, except thicker at the widow's peak, and in the receding areas i think i can see dark hairs just poking through the scalp now...i can't tell if they were cut to short or newly regenerated hairs...it will be clearer when the hair is grown in more.

Lastly, does anyone think that the universal hair drug may have been discovered or bought by the companies of rogaine and propecia in an effort to make incredible profits off their less effective drugs that require chemical dependance while they hold the best cards secret?
Also...if you rip of a branch of a tree and plant it carefully in soil, will it develop roots? or will it die? Just wondering...
 

Tom Hagerty (Admin)
Posted on Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Anonymous:

I smiled at your comment: "...but i've only been at it [the scalp exercises] for a couple weeks so no hair progress yet."

If you read My Approach carefully, you saw the depressingly long time frame for success with the scalp exercises. Sprouting hair after a couple of weeks on the program would qualify you for the Guinness Book of Records.

"Also...if you rip off a branch of a tree and plant it carefully in soil, will it develop roots? or will it die? Just wondering..."

It will develop roots and reach high into the clouds. If you climb this tree, you will live happily ever after.
 

marc
Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Well, not to make any offensive comments here but I think black men seem to be extremely horny. They seem to look at and lust all women, and they also seem to be bald less often.
 

marc
Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Tom, you stated "Beyond the official use as an antifungal agent, it is supposed to reduce the production of sebum. Some dermatologists believe that pattern baldness may be aggravated by inflammation. This inflammation in and around the hair canal might be caused by excess sebum and the bacteria that feed on it. Studies indicate that the sebaceous glands in the thinning and balding areas of scalp are usually larger than in the areas of healthy hair. The oils they produce and secrete into the hair canal are full of the organic material bacteria love. Nizoral is reputed to cut down on the sebum production and therefore on the colonies of bacteria that are sometimes evident in pattern baldness. I almost convinced myself to try it."
Does this mean that bc I have dandruff I am more likely to lose my hair? Do scalp itches cause hairloss? Like an itch on the scalp, can it damage the hair follicle? Maybe it sounds like a dumb question but Im worried.
 

arutha
Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I've seen snippets from some of the studies that suggest Nizoral might have the result of increasing the diameter of the hair shaft by a small amount. However, some people don't do well with it. It's not the most user-friendly shampoo. I tried it back in '99 and stopped due to severe shedding. I tried it again this year in very small doses and am experiencing some shedding. I just backed off it last week, and things seem to be getting better. It's worth a try, but be careful.

BTW, the 1% OTC product was the one used in the studies. The 2% stuff is script only (but you can get around that, of course) and has a warning about causing hair loss.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I have been using Nizoral for several years now and will most likely be using it for the rest of my life. It is designed to help with Psoriasis and other scalp conditions. I have a condition where I get red sores on my scalp that itch (and I mean ITCH) and flake and disappear only to reappear elsewhere on the scalp.

The nizoral keeps this condition from appearing and I can lead an itch free life. I am extremely thankful that there is a product for such an odd scalp conditon as I have.

There is an over the counter version of nizoral which isn't as strong nor does it work as well.

I cannot say that it has helped me "grow or maintain hair" as I am slowly losing it on my crown, which propecia has seemed to cure for me.

I hope I have been some help.
 

matt
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Nizoral is great. Another product which is great as well is T/gel, which is over the counter. T/gel supreme itch and flake control is awesome if your problem is bad.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Can you buy these shampoos at a store like CVS? If not, where do I buy them?
 

Tom Hagerty
Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Anonymous:

Go to CVS. Tell 'em Tom sent you and they'll give you a free bottle. For the 2 percent Nizoral you need a prescription. The 1 percent is fine though.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I am a female with diffuse thinning hair. I have just started using Nizoral now about 5 days in a row and I dont leave it on long, I just lather and rinse. Now I am experiencing red itchy bumps on my scalp, not many about four or five or so. Has anyone had this happen to them after using Nizoral?
 

PKA
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

The instructions clearly state that Nizoral should only be used twice a week. It might be an idea to heed them and then see what happen!
 

rhett
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I have had the worst case of itching scalp imaginable for the past 3 months. It itched so bad that I started loosing my hair.. I'm 27 and have most of it, but it seemed to be thinning rapidly. I tried Selson B, Nioxin and ALL the rest..Finally I saw over the counter Nizoral and tried it and DAMN! It WORKED. I don't know for sure if it is making the hair I pulled out from digging grow back or not yet, but the itching is completely gone. I could not be happier. My confidence was waining until this wonderful stuff worked, so that is the only reason I would ever sit here and take up my free time to type good things about a product. (I have Adult Attention Deficit Disorder so thats saying something) I SAY TRY IT FOR BALDING OR ITCHING.

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