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VZ
| | Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 10:10 am: |
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Hello, I started to loose hair a year ago. I tried different treatments with no luck. A few months ago I began using finasteride, which helped me to maintain hair on vertex and mid-area of the scalp. Still I needed something to regrow hair on my hairline. From what I found on the Internet, a good treatment to achieve that was a laser therapy. The only available product, a laser comb made by HairMax, was too expensive for me, so I started looking for alternatives. Then I found this site http://www.amazinglasercomb.com/ They sell laser combs which are several times cheaper, than the HairMax product. They also have a large variety of laser combs, including the ones made of plastic and natural fiber, with varying number of lasers. The person who owns this company is very nice and seems to have lots of experience in lasers and medical equipment. Also, as it is stated on his we-page, all of his lasers and specifications, as to power supply and laser devices, are at the review and recommendation of one of the foremost leading laser specialist in the United States. On his website I already found lots of positive feedback from his customers I ordered a 6 laser brush from him, and just received it (very soon!). I can’t tell anything about the results yet, since I’ve just started using it, but I hope it will be a very good addition to my other treatments. Once again, here is the link if you’re interested http://www.amazinglasercomb.com/ |
   
lisa wood
| | Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 10:11 am: |
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dont get this crap. A GREAT SCAM. i mean it. PLEASE dont contribute to this great scam. |
   
vz
| | Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 10:34 am: |
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why do you think so? |
   
jpj
| | Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 07:03 pm: |
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This is a sales guy trolling forums trying to up sales of this lagging product. The laser comb duped ABC news, FOX news, and USA Today with a picture of a guy who had telogen effluvium about 2 and a half years ago. They showed his "after" picture in their ads over and over. He, of course, grew back quite a bit of hair. Telogen effluvium sufferers typically do grow back much of their hair on their own. Kevin McElwee, moderator of Keratin.com and hairloss-expert, thinks long term usage of pulating laser light could actually damage DNA within the follicles. Wouldnt want that. It proboably does excite the keratinocyte cells, much like massage does, to divide faster. This may lead to larger hair shafts for a time, but the long term (3 years and more) price may be more hair fallout in many people's considered opinion. In a lont of ways this is the perfect hair scam. They get their 600+ dollars up front or in 3 payments that you'll have to make or it will wind up on your credit report. That way, when you dont get results, you cant take the product back. Hair transplant mills were using hooded laser helments as part of their "treatment" programs a few years back. This gets the suckers in so the salesmen can give'em the hardsell and get em' in the chair for their first set of surgical scars to hook em' on transplants for the rest of their lives. Pulsated lasers might stimulate follicles to a degree over the short term, but why now use a proven growth stimulator like minoxidil or copper peptides instead. At 6 bucks a month, 2% minox would have to be used 100 months or 8 years to equal the cost of a laser comb. And it actually has FDA studies backing it up. The lasercomb's maker promised FDA studies, and has been doing so for over 3 years now. NO RESULTS. NO STUDIES. NO APPROVAL. Wonder why. For those of you unititiated in hairloss scams, lasercomb and Lexington International (who used to distribute it, might be bought out by now) are based in Boca Raton Florida. This is hairclubformen's home base, the mother of all hair scams. Other scams have been run from this little city over the years. Wonder if its the same hucksters pullin' strings down there. Treatments proven on either humans or rodents in studies are propecia, dutasteride, minoxidil, copper peptides (SOD'S), proanthrocyanidrins, spironolactone, free form fatty acids GLA, ALA, LA, OA, and the chemical ECGH from green tea extract, ketoconazale shampoos (Nizoral). Thats it as far as PROVEN treatments are concerned. Electromagnetic therapy had one positive PubMed Study in Eurpoe, but the old essential oils were used in it, so in my opinion we still cant put faith in that. Lasercombs are expensive devices that deliver very little over time if one has read the forums |
   
vz
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 02:18 am: |
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What about this study? www.hairlosstalk.com/download/LasercombReport1.pdf You're talking about minoxidil. But, as far as I know, it also looses effectivness over time. And the same happens with propecia. Besides, you won't keep the hair you managed to regrow with minoxidil, using any other teatmants. You say, that the laser acts more like a massge. But if you're massaging your head it won't cause an excessive hair fallout no matter how long you do it. Then why a laser would cause it? Please note, I have no financial interest in this product whatsoever. As I said for me it is too early to speak of any results yet. I only think it is an interesting product which is worth a try. If you would like to continue with our duiscussion, please, comment on the study I refer to in the link above. |
   
honest
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 09:59 am: |
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laser combs just dont work dude, just about everyone who has researched hair loss can tell you that, it is BS. Sorry to burst your bubble VZ. |
   
whatever
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 07:44 pm: |
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your a bad sales man VZ.......might want to change your name to BS |
   
jpj
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 09:05 pm: |
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http://www.hairlosstalk.com/down load/LasercombReport1.pdf This "study" only took place for SIX MONTHS. Therein lies the rub. One year (and really 18 months) are the amounts of time to measure efficacy of alopecia indications. The study only measured a ONE CENTIMETER patch of scalp and the average increase of hairs in that study per sqare centimeter was 12 whole hairs (wow). One inch is 2.54 centimeters. The studies I cite below are of one square inch areas. So if we multipy those 12 hair increases by 2.54 you get between 31 and 32 extra hairs per square inch. You will see this is much less than what the other two treatments provided per square inch. For instance, we NOW know that propecia sees big increases in hair counts for the first TWO YEARS. The greatest increase over haircount with propecia is at the TWO YEAR MARK. Then haircounts start to fall slightly each year thereafter. At the end of five years men had on average a 277 higher hair count on propecia than on placebo on a one-inch patch of scalp at the top of the head. 65% of men studied either maintained haircount or had more hair at year five on propecia. All placebo users lost hair. This info is provided by the INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY OF HAIR RESTORATION SURGEONS here http://www.ishrs.org/articles/hair-loss-finasteride.htm. and included 1,553 men. Minoxidil's performance over 5 years is here http://www.hairlosstalk.com/download/minox5yrresults.pdf. In it you will see that the biggest increase with minoxidil is at year one with a 273 haircount increase over baseline, and then a decrease in the haircount. However, even at YEAR FIVE, there is a 211 per square inch hair increase over baseline at year one. Minoxidil at YEAR FIVE still gives a guy 211 more hairs than we started using it. This study only used 2 and 3% minoxidil. Not 5% that you can buy over the counter. The study recommends a twice a day application because subjects who used it twice a day in the study had more success than those who used it only once. The study had 126 men. So lets review shall we. You get 277 more hairs per square inch at year 5 with propecia if youre the average of over 1500 people studied. You get 211 more hairs per square inch at year 5 with minoxidil if youre the average responder of 126 people studied. But with the "amazing" laser comb you get on average 32 more hairs per square inch at 6 months, and proboably less than that over five years, if youre the average responder of a PITIFUL LITTLE STUDY THAT ONLY USED 35 men and 7 women for a whopping total of 42 test subjects!!!!!!! Id also like to add that this "study" was conducted by a one John Satino and Michael Markou, D.O. What does "DO" mean? Well, if you scroll down to the end of the articl you will see that John Satino is the "clinical DIRECTOR and laser safety OFFICER" at "The Laser Hair and Scalp Clinic" in Clearwater, Florida. Clearwater is close to Boca Raton, birthplace of the Hairclub Scam by the way. BUT WHAT INTERESTS ME IS THE """"D.O""""" bullsh3t. THEY ARE NOT EVEN DOCTORS PERFORMING THE "study" of 35 men. They arent Ph.d's. at all. They are performing a "study" on a device they sell THEMSELVES GOSHDAMMIT. How can you fall for this? By the way, copper peptides, in a FDA phase 2 study, outperformed minoxidil, and proanthocyandrins do about as well. Proanthocyandrins are in apple juice and apple cider vinegar and grape seed extract. I literally believe that soaking your damned head in apple juice might be better than a silly laser light device that might, according to hairbiologist and cloning researcher Dr. Kevin J. McElwee, do long term damage to your follicle DNA if used for years. btw, who's your daddy, where's your pride, get a real job outside sales. |
   
reloaded
| | Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 12:59 pm: |
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jpj, could you please tell us more about proanthocyandrins? at what dosage they should be used and how often? thanks! |
   
jpj
| | Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 06:49 pm: |
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http://www.hairlosstalk.com/newsletter/modules.php?op=modload &name=News&file=art icle&sid=53&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 Thats an article from Hairlosstalk about proanthocyanidrins in Revivogen with a couple of Japanese studies at the end. |
   
markus
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 01:30 am: |
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great research jpj! interesting read |
   
Kiel James Patrick
| | Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 05:37 pm: |
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I've used the damn hair comb exactly how it said to for 1 year.... and also used the over head laser at a clinic for 2 years... it does not do a damn thing. For the first month your hair looks darker and shinier and then it just goes back to normal. 1 time I tried using the hairmax for 6 hours straight in one day just to see if my hair would be stuck to my head for the day but instead i had the worst shed of my life. I hate my laser comb! |
   
ML
New member Username: Mlowry_1
Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 07:10 pm: |
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THe amazing laser comb does not work. I bought it 4 months ago, and have been using it the recommended amount. When I emailed that JR guy they recommended I use Nizoral and Biotin. What a crock. Save your money, shave your head, and get a nice watch. |
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