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Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 01:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Hey Tom,
After reading all of these possible benefits of soy, I've decided to try and add it to my diet. I want to start eating tofu but i have no idea what a "good" amount to eat per day is. I know this stuff has estrogen and other hormones in it so I thought it better to ask someone who knows before going overboard. Also, is there another form of soy which you would recommend more than tofu?
Thanks
 

Michael
Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

You can make a Miso soup with tofu in it. Miso is made of soyabeans and looks like a brown paste(there are different pastecolors which shows the strength of the paste). Add a little green onions to the mix too and some dashi corns maybe.
If you do a google search with "Miso soup" you will surely find alot of recepies containing both Tofu and Miso

"I want to start eating tofu but i have no idea what a "good" amount to eat per day is. I know this stuff has estrogen and other hormones in it so I thought it better to ask someone who knows before going overboard."

This is what I want to know too. I wouldnt want my dick to start shrinking or getting bitch tits because Im eating to much soy :-)
There is no secret that asian men have smaller dicks(sorry if I offended someone, your dick is perfect the way it is. Its lovely, really ;) ), but if it has anything to do with soy it probably affected the asian men around their puberty when they needed tetesterone to grow things :-)
But Im no expert so does anyone know if it has any "dangerous" side effects
 

Jenifer
Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Yes as everyone knows, the Asian population is dying out, and all because of soy :-)

(Tempeh is better than tofu, in my opinion and that
of Dr. Mercola at mercola.com)
 

Michael
Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Hehe not dying out, we were talking about the estrogen aspect. So will I get bitch tits ;). Just kidding. But how many bowls of estrogen a day can my body take :-)
 

Jenifer
Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

All natural foods, including soy, contain phytoestrogens. I've never heard of them having
any feminizing effects. The estrogens injected into food animals, and the xenoestrogens in plastics and other environmental factors, are a
different story. This is a real problem...

Anyway, a moderate amount of soy foods per day
should be enough to help your hair. Last night I
made brown rice with stir-fried onions, broccoli
and a palm-sized amount of tempeh.
I topped it all with homemade peanut sauce. Yum!
 

Dave
Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

hey, thanks for the advice guys (this is the original anonymous). Ive started drinking soy milk a lot more (the raw tofu was kind of sick, and i dont always have time to cook). I also picked up some kelp suppliments because i heard that was beneficial. Thanks agian,
Dave
 

Jenifer
Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Yes, kelp tablets are great for hair, as is seaweed
in general.

I dunno about soy milk. From my research, I think
the fermented forms of soy (miso, tempeh) are the best and that's what I use myself.

 

Michael
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

You convinced me, Miso and Tempeh it is :-)
Gonna buy some tomorrow
 

Jenifer
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Kewl :-)

I make peanut sauce with miso instead of soy
sauce..mix together to taste: organic peanut butter, apple cider vinegar, honey, miso, and spices such as garlic and/or ginger powder...
 

Dave
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Hey Jenifer,
You say that the fermented forms of soy are better. In what ways are they better for you? what do they have that stuff like tofu and soy milk don't?
 

Jenifer
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 02:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Unfermented soy is high in phytic acid which has many anti-nutrients, for one thing. Fermented soy avoids this problem. See this article: http://askwaltstollmd.com/wwwboard/messages/286539.shtml

Excerpt:

fermented soy stops the effect of
phytic acid and increases the availability of
isoflavones. The fermentation also creates the
probiotics--the "good" bacteria the body is absolutely dependent on, such as lactobacilli--that increase the
quantity, availability, digestibility and assimilation of nutrients in the body.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 06:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Some reported said isoflavones like genistein and daidzein may inhibit DHT, is that true? Any one has any information on this? Also, an experiemnt conducted by the japanese reviewed that a combination of green tea and soy intake may enhancing equol production significantly. Any comment?
 

Arne Nonym
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Tom has written this about the subject. http://www.hairloss-reversible.com/Hair%20News%20Index/hair_news14.htm

The question is, how much soy is needed for the ultimate effect? How many mg's?

Tom, any idea?
 

Dan
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I have also read that combining green tea and soy (especially fermented) does increase your chances of producing equol in significant amounts. This is a link to the extract of a japanese study.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=14728586 It is a couple of years old and therefore the issue of equol production regarding hair loss hadn't been formally suggested. I believe that adds to the significance of the findings of any such study, since it is far less likely to be (exclusively) comercially-driven.
 

lisa
Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

what exactly is femented soy?
how is it different to regular soy, someone please
 

Anonymous
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I'm interested to hear some testemony from people who actually consume tofu,tempeh,miso and grew their hair back!

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