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     Anonymous |
I have been doing the se for over 3 months along with proscar (2 months) and zix (4 months). A week ago I was doing a normal temporal check and saw what looked like a dark tiny peice of a shaved off hair. I went to rub it off and guess what, it was a brand new dark hair in my temporal area about 1/2 cm away from my hair line. It is funny how one little hair can change your world and mood. I watched this hair for a week as it got a little bit longer and grew at the pace of the rest of my hair. Today I went to check my new pride and joy and guess what? That ••••••• bastard of a hair is gone. Gone!!! How does a hair come and go so fast? Ive come to learn the cycles and this is way to fast for a healthy looking new hair. | ||
| Bobo |
Haha... this is one of the funniest posts I've read so far... It's funny how a man's world and future can hang in the balance over one lousy hair  If the hair was dark and strong it should come back, even if it comes back weaker. With the shedding of a hair, the follicle doesn't really die off like people think it does. It produces thinner and thinner hairs. So that follicle of yours should have some life left in it and still owes you a few more rounds. Let me give you one pointer about the scalp excercises: Do them vigorously for 30 continuous minutes. None of that 10 minute round stuff. This has worked wonders for me so far and I've only started the whole thing. But it's way too early for me to jump to conclusions so I'm not going to make a big deal out of it. | ||
| Tom Hagerty |
Bobo: I wish you didn't write this - "Let me give you one pointer about the scalp excercises: Do them vigorously for 30 continuous minutes. None of that 10 minute round stuff." Even if what you say is true, the 30-minute gig is going to turn people off. Guys used to the ease of taking a pill or smearing something on the scalp won't like the idea of a workout of that duration. When I got my hair back, though, the 30-minute session was standard. But for stabilization, a couple of 10-minute sessions is sufficient. I don't like to label people, but you're probably a fanatic just like I was. Getting one's hair back is not a task for mild-mannered people. That story of the gain and loss of one ••••••• bastard of a hair made my day. | ||
| Anonymous |
Hey, its me again. I definitely had a new dark hair coming it. I was really excited because I caught it right as it popped up and was going to keep track of just that one hair to give me an idea of how my other hair were doing. I also have a lot more vellus hair in that area that grew out another mm or two so it looks fuzzy in the right light. I just dont get how a growing hair can shed in a matter of days. I would think it would go into the resting phase and take months to fall out so I am really confused on what that follicle is doing. Oh and by the way I prob do the exercise between 1 and 2 hours a day. It is very addicting because I feel I have control on the benefits of my hair and I just have to work hard for them. I have had days where I have done up to 3 hours just because I didnt have much else to do that day. But dammit that hair was a bigger tease than a female. | ||
| Anonymous |
Hi Tom, Just been searching the net for info on soya (equol) and hairloss and came across an interesting treatment. A UK specialist has a clinic that uses heat to apparently stabalise and in some cases regrow hair. I found this on a BBC news website, which stated that the heat treatment has been used in Korea and Spain with an 85% success rate. The reason im telling you this, is that the principles behind it are identical to that of the scalp excercise. It states that the heat helps dilate the cappiliaries which in turn increases blood flow to the scalp. He then states that this increased blood flow helps to flush away some of the harmful chemicals buuilding up around the follicles (i.e. the DHT). Just wondering, you have stated that 10 minutes twice per day is enough to stabilise hair loss, would you need more exercise than this to regrow hair?. Ive been doing the exercise for 6 months now with no change. My plan is to continue the scalp exercise along with soya isoflavone capsules. If after 6 months their is no improvement, im going to consider finasteride. How does that sound? | ||
| Bobo |
Tom: Sorry for spreading the wrong message. 1 minute of scalp excercise is much better than no scalp excercise at all at the end of the day. 10 minutes does sound like a good "set" after all. However, I will try the fanatical approach just because it's fun. I missed 1 day of scalp excercises over the weekend(couldn't really do them in a bar altough I tried) and yesterday I had to go for 45 minutes. Today another 45 and I made everything up. I swear I can feel the blood circulating vehemently all over my scalp after the 45 minutes workout. It's a pleasant feeling altough by then my occipitals are begging for their life. The way I figured.... If I'm going to give the scalp excercise a try and be a part of this experiment, then I better put a dose of fanaticism into this so there are no maybes at the end of the journey. | ||
| Tom Hagerty |
Anonymous: That UK specialist probably charges the blokes who visit his clinic a good price. "I found this on a BBC news website, which stated that the heat treatment has been used in Korea and Spain with an 85% success rate." Where do these people get those numbers? I suppose statistics and probabilities give treatment programs some kind of scientific plausibility. One highly advertised product claims 96.5 percent probability of success. I hope you know that these numbers are fashioned out of thin air. No treatment even comes close to 85 percent "success," let alone 96.5. I never mention any statistics or even hint at them when talking about the scalp exercise program. It's definitely above zero though. Sustained heat above a certain temperature on the scalp area can damage hair follicles and even destroy them. You can read about this on www.keratin.com. Kevin mentions this when talking about what temperature of water is best for shampooing. He thinks lukewarm, by the way, is best. I hope I'm not spawning a group of scalp exercise fanatics out there. "I have had days where I have done up to 3 hours just because I didnt have much else to do that day." Wow! | ||
| Anonymous |
Tom: I no this question, like many on this website i have read is almost impossible for you to answer! But, you appear to have a very accurate understanding of MPB, so i am going to ask you anyway haha. My question is, do you think it is possible to recede into an M shape and to have no further hairloss, i.e. for you to only have receptor sites for DHT to attack at the front of your hair. I ask this because my hairline is receding to about a norwood 2 (very noticable). It is exactly the same as my fathers is now, except i have miniturized follicles and vellus hair at the front (thus still receding). My father believes he receded into that shape and then no further, this is also the same for his father! He assures me that my wont go any further back but i cant see how it would just stop! Any suggestions?? | ||
| Tom Hagerty |
Anonymous: You wrote this about your father: " He assures me that my [recession] wont go any further back but i cant see how it would just stop!" I don't want to be cast in the role of a bad guy, but I would urge some skepticism when listing to the assurances of your father or anyone about how your hair loss may advance. Everyone is different in this regard - different genes, different health habits, different life style. Genes are the most important factor, but nutrition, general health, and life style are important too. Now after saying this, I'm certainaly not going to reassure you that once your frontal hairline has assumed the M shape further hair loss will stop. Only a loving father can do that. | ||
| Maurice |
I have the same question as Anonymous. What you could do is look at old pictures of your family and check how he looked at your age. How old are you now?- The earlier you start receeding the more chances of loosing it quicker. Someone used to tell me that if you reached 30 and you didnt loose your hair you would keep it!- Not true. Receeding can start any time. Most men above 30 do have some receeding even if its only a Norwood 2.- It's really hard to find people with a straight hairline- Do an experiment and keep count for 1 hour. I do belive you can slow down the process doing something about it though. Maybe slow it down enough to receed accordingly to a later stage in life, where other things will come into balance and will be more important, |
