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Carole
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I have been noticably losing hair for the past 2 months. I visited a dermatologist who said that (unknown to me)I had dandruff, but that would not be causing the hair loss. He suggested using Nizoral (10) and Cormax 0.05% for 2 weeks. I did with no positive result. My hairdresser suggested applying olive oil to the scalp and leaving it on at least 4 hours, 3 times/week. No positive result. I have lost probably 1/3 of my hair in the past 2 months. My thyroid, iron, are ok. I am frantic....
 

Tom Hagerty (Admin)
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Carole:

Of course no one can give a diagnosis on the Internet but I want to give you just a few suggestions that maybe you could look into.

You lost one third of your hair in the last two months. This could be telogen effluvium or TE. Usually about 90% of the hair follicles are in the growing stage of the hair cycle and about 10% in the resting or telogen stage of the cycle. Sometimes a "trigger" can upset this balance and a much greater percentage of hair follicles enter the resting (telogen) stage. These hairs in the resting stage then fall out over a period of a few months. The shedding is usually in a diffuse pattern.

There are many things that can trigger TE. Some of the women who posted under the topic Female Pattern Baldness mentioned getting off birth control pills. One mentioned taking a drug (Larium) for malaria. Other things that can trigger TE are crash diets (losing over two pounds a week), a high fever, emotional or physical stress, and of course certain prescription drugs.

When the trigger is removed the hair grows back, but it can take many months. TE is not a permanent form of hair loss like male pattern baldness.

When you go to a dermatologist in the future it might be good to know a few things about hair. People seem to get better treatment from specialists if they ask intelligent questions.

I'm not surprised that the olive oil ritual did not work. I'm sure everyone wants to help you but not everyone has the expertise to do so. Even among dermatologists there are competent ones and ones that will not take the time to carefully understand your problem. Your doctor tested you for thyroid and iron. These tests are important in ruling out two major causes of hair loss.

I wish I could give you the specific information you want but I can't. I'm sure these few paragraphs will not help you too much unless they encourage you to study up on what makes hair grow and what makes it stop growing.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I agree that doctors, not just dermatologists, are more responsive to patients who seem to know what they are talking about and can ask meaningful questions. They are also less inclined to write a prescription for some ineffective medication. Doctors tend to spend more time with people they feel are intelligent and able to understand a complex diagnosis or prognosis.
 

Paula
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

This is not a minor point. If you go into a doctor's office with the attitude of here I am - the responsibility is all on your shoulders to make me well - you may, but then again you may not, get all the attention you're paying such a high price for. I think this is especially true of women going to a gynecologist. It's the woman's responsibility to really know her body and what questions to ask. So what does this have to do with hair? I haven't figured that out.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I am in a somewhat similar situation I am 20yrs. old,and slightly overweight. I have been losing my hair for 1 yr now, it has been shedding from the root non stop with white follicles on each strand.My scalp is sore too sore to wear my hair up, it feels like my hair is being pulled out, because it probably is. I have lost 75 percent of my hair and I barely have anything left to lose you can already see my scalp.I have healthy semi-long nails good skin and controlled acne. I take such good care of my long brown hair, I have seen a few Doctors. They tell me there is nothing that I can do, They have checked my thyroid, iron, and and hormones. The only thing they tell me is take hair growth pills , but I am an Italian woman( facial hair\won't stop growing...) and they say to use rogaine I don't want take this approach till I know what is going on with my body and why this is happening to me. Hopefully I won't be bald before I figure it out I try to think of everything that this could be from,I was taking pills for ADD up until a few months ago but I've researched that and it has no correlation , I stopped taking birth control 2 yrs. ago , and I have no children. Help me please!
 

Tom Hagerty (Admin)
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2001 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Anonymous:

Of course I can't help you. No one can make specific diagnoses and give treatment options on the Internet - and I don't think you really expect that. But I would like to make some comments.

1. The medication you took for attention deficit disorder (Ritalin), as you said, has no adverse effect on hair. Usually the symptoms for ADD peak between 8 and 10. You continued to take it for a long time. Perhaps long-term use of the drug and its antagonistic action with other drugs might have been a trigger for hair loss, but this is just sheer speculation.

2. Sometimes going on or coming off birth control pills can trigger telogen effluvium but this usually occurs after only two or three months, not two years.

3. You had your thyroid, iron, and hormone levels checked, and all were within the normal range. The only other test you could take is to have a dermatologist examine your hair with a microscope to possibly determine the exact type of hair loss you have.

4. The doctor recommended "hair growth pills." I suppose these are vitamin and mineral supplements with biotin, sulfer, silica, etc. It would be a long shot if this would help you.

5. The doctor also recommended Rogaine. I think you made the right decision to find out what is really causing your hair loss before going on the lifetime program of Rogaine.

I'm sorry I can't give you any advice except to keep reading about your problem. The best place to go is Keratin.com. Kevin McElwee will give you good, unbiased information on this site - he has nothing to sell.

If you find some help, if you solve your problem, I wish you'd let me know.
 

Christine
Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I have been reading all of the message on the message board. Here is my story. I started to notice my hair falling out towards the end of March, at first I ignored it, but after a month I started to panic. I stopped to think what was different and I realized that in February I stopped taking birth control, so I thought that it must be hormone related, plus I had a very poor diet (not extreme weight loss) but my caloric intake was low and I was training for a half marathon. I have since resumed taking the pill ( I have been on it for about one month now) and I went to go see a Dermatologist who did blood test and everything was normal. So his conclusion was that it was due to the combination of my poor diet and going off birth control. Over the last two months I have been eating a much better diet and I have been decreasing my exercise and taking lots of flaxseed oil and multi vitamins. My doctor said that it will take up to 6 months for my hormones, etc.. to normalize. My hair shedding has lessened, it is no longer around the 150/day range it is more like 100 on days I wash my hair and around 20-30 on days I do not. Thankfully no one has noticed, so it is not at that point yet. There has been a slight decrease each week. I hope that this is a sign that I am on the downside, but only time will tell. I realize that this did not happen overnight and that it will not be cured overnight. I was wondering if it is worth it for me to go on Rogaine, my doctor suggested it, but I am not sure if the side effects are worth it or if I should hold off for a while or if you have any other suggestions that you have heard of, any natural remedies? Is what I described to you a common problem. Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Thank you.
 

Tom Hagerty (Admin)
Posted on Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Christine:

Many women who train for marathons seem to suffer from telogen effluvium (TE). This may be because when a woman's body gets down to 17 percent or less fat, many hormonal changes take place. For example, menstruation stops. These hormonal changes could certainly trigger TE.

Once the trigger has been removed it can take over six months before lost hair is regained. Your new life style (better diet, decreased exercise) should hasten your revovery. Be careful with the multivitamins though. Many researchers (Harvard Health Letter) are finding increased hair loss in people with high vitamin A intake. Synthetic vitamin A seems to be in everything these days - cereal, milk, cheese.

Why don't you postpone Rogaine for a while and see what happens. Once you start you have to keep on this drug for life. And it might not be effective for you - it itches too.
 

Christine
Posted on Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Tom,
Thank you for your input, I have read that excessive vitamin A can lead to hair loss, do you know or can you direct me to where I can find out how much is too much I was taking a multi that had 10,000 IU (50% beta carotene & 5o% palmitate). Now I started taking a prenatal vitamin that has 5,000 IU (palmitate) in it. I could not find where they said what is too much.

I had heard from my Gyno that people who run alot and have a low % of fat may lose their hair. She had mentioned that I was too thin (5'5" and 105) and my menstration had stopped when I went off birth control (now that I am back on it it has started again) that is why I started taking the flaxseed oil to get the essential fatty acids in my body and eating better. Hopefully like I mentioned previously the combination of that and going back on the pill will help me.

I have decided in doing some research that I will not try Rogaine for now, because once I start, then I will have no way of knowing if it is the Rogaine that is helping or if my hormones are back in check and then I may be afraid to go off the Rogaine fearing that I may start losing my hair again. Plus I was confused since it says not to use it if you do not have heriditary baldness.

If you could let me know or direct me as to where I can find out about the Vitamin A I would appreciate it or if you have any other suggestions that would be great. Take Care
 

Tom Hagerty (Admin)
Posted on Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Christine:

There has been a great divergence of opinion about how much vitamin A is optimum. One popular book, Nutrition Almanac, found in most health food stores claims that "...the best level is somewhere between 25,000 and 50,000 IU." My suggestion based on new research and articles in the Harvard Health Letter is to keep your daily intake below 10,000 IU.

I get my vitamin A from one teaspoonful of cod liver oil which also has the omega-3 fatty acid. You get the omega-3 and omega-6 in the flaxseed oil you take. You can consume all the carotene (provitamin A) you want, but be careful of getting too much vitamin A from animal sources and palmitate. Milk, cereal, and multiple products are fortified with vitamin A palmitate. Don't be fanatical about avoiding vitamin A, but certainly don't ingest "therapeutic" doses.

Rogaine is used mostly by people who are suffering from pattern baldness, not the effluviums. You possibly have telogen efflumium triggered by a low body fat ratio and hormone imbalance. It seems a good idea to postpone the use of Rogaine, perhaps indefinitely.

Did you have a serum ferritin level test? A low serum ferritin level may be linked to a slow recovery from telogen effluvium. Serum ferritin is a measure of the total iron store in the body: hemoglobin levels (the usual iron test) measure the iron circulating in the red blood cells (anemia).
 

weiland
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

My 2 yr old daughter began losing her hair last Sept/Oct. I noticed it began falling out suddenly one day about 2 weeks after getting her MMR shot and starting flouride pills. A couple of weeks later I quit the flouride and then a few weeks later it stopped falling out. In all, she lost about 1/2 of her hair all throughout her head. It has been very very slow coming back...her "new" hair is about 1 1/2 inches long. Now again, it has started falling out. She did some blood tests and all seemed normal the first time. Does anyone have any ideas???
 

Zenith
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 02:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I have a question..I was recently told I had TE and it was brought on by extreme emotional stress. Rogaine is not an option for I dont want to be dependent on a drug related product or as a quick fix for I know once you begin this treatment it must be maintained for life. I lean heavily toward a more holstic approach and it was suggested to me to begin taking an over the counter stress tab to replace the vitamins and mineral that we loose during stressful times in our lives. Plus to boost up my daily intake of Biotin. Is this advice reliable and does it work. Do you know of other self/home treatments to treat TE without drugs.??
 

Tom Hagerty
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Zenith:

You said that rogaine is not an option because you do not want to be dependent on a drug-related product or a quick fix. Sometimes relying on pills - stress tabs, vitamins, minerals - is really just another quick fix that makes your feel better because at least you're doing something. A real "holistic" approach would be to eat good foods rich in all the nutrients your body and hair needs. Pills are really just a supplement at best. Be sure to get a proper balance of the omega-3 and omega-6 essential fatty acids in your diet. These nutrients can be helpful in getting a quicker resolution to TE. Also make sure you are getting sufficient iron,copper, and zinc.


 

zenith
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 04:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I have another question. After extensive studying I was told to find an old re-run episode of Oprah. There a woman claiming to have lost her hair from TE said she found a way to stimulate the scalp, promoting regrowth that was fantastic. A way of without drugs or costly cosmetic products with ingredients most folks have at home. She instructed you mix these ingredients:
10 asprins crushed
1c. vodka 100/80proof
2 alka seltzers crushed
one tsp of plain white toothpaste
on tsp of mild shampoo
This is supose to stimulate the scalp and unclog the folicles. She said the shining scalp which is present in most TE suffers is the build up of dead skin and oils over time. With this treatment your to expect the scalp to turn pink and some flaking or lifting of what looks like dandruff will occur and to use jojba oil to soften it after treatment if you like. Your to massage this in on your scalp once a day. Wash with a mild shampoo and stay away from shampoos or conditioners with wax or patrolleum in them for they defeat the purpose.
Has anyone ever seen this episode or heard of this home technique before.???
 

E. Scrooge
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Zenith:

Are you sure this was on Oprah? I think I saw this on Saturday Night Live.

"After extensive studying I was told to find an old re-run episode of Oprah." If this is all you came up with after extensive studying, you're in big trouble. The vodka 100/80 proof part of the formula, though, I'm in total agreement with. Drink enough of that and you'll forget about your hair loss.
 

arutha
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Zenith:

My understanding of TE is that, unlike MPB, it eventually corrects itself--drugs are used as a way to kickstart and speed up growth. Who told you you had TE, and what did they suggest you do to fix it? If it's stress-related, I would think that you'd need to treat the stress first.

I'd forget about the Oprah cure. It's one of the most ridiculous solutions I've heard in a while (I have heard it's good to take aspirin daily, but this alone won't grow any hair). Another thing that makes it suspect is that it claims to unclog follicles. There has never been a documented case of hair loss caused by clogged follicles.

I'd do some more serious research, if I were you. Have you been to keratin.com?
 

Tom Hagerty
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Zenith:

Click www.keratin.com for serious research - even better than Oprah.
 

susan hoodley
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I'm 43 and female. I believe my hair started falling out about October of 2001. I'd whined to friends on and off throughout that time frame and then while in Vegas in Oct of 2002 noticed it was worse. I finally went to the doctor (again) and derm (again) and have had thyroid, blood tests etc, only to hear, you're "great" - we don't know what it is. All my derm said was "try Rogaine". He didn't offer any type of scalp test, follicle tests etc. I started counting hairs in mid December - and even with trying to only get it wet and wash every other day i believe I had lost almost 8000 hairs - and that wasn't taking into account all the hair that came out on the "off day" when I didn't wash it and didn't count. I also only counted in the morning, so alot of other hair coming out didn't get counted. It's coming out all over and part is getting wide. Am I fooling myself to think that I'm losing less if I wash it every other day? I can't bring myself to wash it everyday - I'd die if I saw that much hair come out every day. It's actually been worse the last couple of weeks - with prob at leat 160 coming out - just in the morning. I'm assuming it's the chronic te - as I can't figure a thing that brought it on, plus it is coming out on my temple are too. I read where CTE can last 72 months. I've read differnet things - some say the hair falling out won't come back in, some say the hair falling out is good, that new hair is growing and pushing it out. The majority of mine that comes out has the bulb on it and they range from long to really short, fine ones that have that bulb. I'm pretty devastated, I guess I'd just like any suggestion - like something about other tests, or if I need to just accept it. If it keeps coming out at this rate - I feel I won't have much hair in another year. Someone please answer with something?
 

Tom Hagerty
Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Susan Hoodley:

You want someone to please answer with something. I read you post many times. I really don't have anything helpful or intelligent to say. You have read about telogen effluvium and chronic telogen effluvium and I'm sure you know the potential triggers for these problems. You evidently had none of these triggers lately in your life (crash diets, surgery, going off or on birth control pills, sudden hormonal changes). You obviously have stress related to your hair loss. I'm certainly not going to say, "Hey, just relax." Stress is a trigger factor but you did not have it prior to this shedding of perhaps 200 or more hairs a day.

I hope that venture into Las Vegas did not hasten your hair loss - a loss of over a million dollars sometimes causes a few hairs to fall out or turn instantly white.

That quick recourse to Rogaine is the easy answer that dermatologists often suggest. It's the lazy answer. Did you get the serum ferritin test or did you ask for it? Kevin McElwee at www.keratin.com recommends this for people who have TE or CTE.

Shampooing definitely does not cause more hair loss even though it's depressing to see hairs going down the drain.

I wish I had something constructive to say to you - a book to read or a great doctor to recommend. I don't.

 

Susan Hoodley
Posted on Monday, May 26, 2003 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Thanks Tom,

I'm reading what you suggested in the email, and I'll look at this stuff too. I appreciate you taking the time to respond...........I guess I'll keep checking out this website - at least people are sympathetic!

Thanks again

SH
 

Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Is it possible that even after the trigger is removed, the TE continues?

In my case, the trigger was going off BCPs. I went back on to maintain hormone levels (at the advice of hair loss radio show host!). It's still falling out, but to a lesser extent.

What i'm wondering is: if I stuck it out the few months it takes for my body to start producing the hormones itself, will I be nearly guarenteed the hair loss will stop OR is there a significant chance i will continue to lose hair forever and ever b/c my body will never again naturally do whatever it should do to keep the hair in my head?

Thank you.
 

Tom Hagerty
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Anonymous:

There's such a thing as chronic telogen effluvium. This form of diffuse hair loss in women lingers a long time after the trigger has been removed. CTE is much less common than TE. The onset of CTE is usually rapid.

The trigger for TE is often a change in hormone levels - starting BCPs or coming off BCPs. Once the body gets used to the change the hair loss problem resolves itself - six months, eight months.

"will I be nearly guarenteed the hair loss will stop OR is there a significant chance i will continue to lose hair forever"

There are no guarantees for any form of hair loss, but all specialists agree that TE is not permanent.
 

Pam
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Can telogen effluvium make you lose almost all of your hair in 6 months? I have been told that is what I have after 2 biopsies. That is the worse case she has ever seen but that it still should resolve itself? Can ALL your hair fall out from TE and grow back?

Pam
 

Anonymous
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Is there anyone who has had a bout w/TE before and now it has passed...? Any success stories
 

tyler
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

i am having telogen effluvium from surgery and i recently had a doctor test me for serum iron and it turned out i was low. im taking a supplement now with iron. can i expect this to speed up regrowth? ive lost almost 1/2 ofmy hair and the surgery that triggered it was five months ago
 

tyler
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

i have another question. if i have low serum iron, will any iron supplement do? or are there actual serum iron supplements that are different.
 

Tom Hagerty
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Tyler:

If you can raise your serum ferritin level to 70 ng/ml or even higher and keep it there, this may speed up recovery - getting back your lost hair. Eating lean beefsteak is probably a better option than the iron pills for building up your ferritin level. The iron in meat is highly assimilated.

If you take the pills (most people prefer pills for everything), it might be best to take an iron pill that has added B-vitamins, vitamin C, and B-12. Assimilation of iron in your body is synergistic - many nutrients work together.

There's no such think as a serum iron pill.
 

tyler
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

thank you for responding. also one more question..do you personally know women or men who have made a full recovery from telogen effluvium? and how long did it take.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I started on Ovrette (norgestrel) in May of 2003. Beginning in September or October, I began noticing diffuse hair loss. By November, my hair was noticeably (at least to my touch, not necessarily by appearance) thinner. I switched to Ortho-Tri-Cyclen and have been on that ever since. After starting this, the hair loss seemed to decrease dramatically, but has increased again in the past month. I am getting a little freaked out about this. I'm hesitant to see a dermatologist, because I know telogen effluvium is common with birth control pills, but this has been going on for nearly a year. Any suggestions?
 

Ashley Robinson
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Back in the summer, around August, I began the Atkins diet. I lost about 30 pounds in two and a half months. I felt great, but at then I started sheddding. I didn't think anything about it at first because I had always had thick, healthy hair. But then it kept getting worse and worse until I had lost half of my hair. So, now it's April and it finally stopped about two months ago. I have baby hair, but not nearly as much as I should. I am worried that it won't all grow back, and I know that that is a real possibility. I am totally thankful that it has stopped, but all I want now is for my hair to be normal again. Have I given it enough time to rule out a complete recovery, or should I wait a little longer before giving up hope? I would really appreciate some advice. Thanks :o)
 

Tom Hagerty
Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 07:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Ashley:

You probably had a form of hair loss called telogen effluvium triggered by your rapid weight loss and the basically unhealthy Atkins diet. Telogen effluvium is not a permanent form of hair loss but it can take a year or even more to recover from it. A good diet helps - sufficient iron, the B-complex, essential fatty acids like the omega-3, and the antioxidants.

If you remain on the Atkins diet and continue to lose weight, the trigger for TE might still be operational and recovery doubtful.
 

ann smith
Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Any significant weight loss can trigger an effluvium no matter what dietary plan one is following. Any significant weight loss will also commonly temporarily lower thyroid function. This is not the forum to debate diets, but before categorizing the Atkins Diet as unhealthy Tom, you should bother actually reading his newest books rather than believing the lies about it that some unethical journalists print without doing any investigation. Atkins plan is NOT gorge on all the bacon and cheese you want and out all fruits and vegetables. The only highly restrictive carb phase is the Induction period which only lasts two weeks. Don't take my word for it -- read his books or go to his website and check out the meals. I cannot see anything unhealthy about a protein based meal ie salmon or organic steak, a large salad with real dressing, a big portion of broccoli and fresh berries for dessert -- that is an Atkins approved meal. I know many people from work who have experienced tremendous health benefits from following the Atkins plan and they did not experience any hair loss -- what they did experience was much needed weight loss, big improvements in their lipids and two were type 2 diabetics and are now able to control their blood sugar without taking insulin injections. If anything, most women do not eat enough protein and many find their hair improves with eating more dietary protein such as Atkins, Protein Power etc.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

About 2 months ago, I stopped taking birth control pills for the first time in 8 years. At the same time I began taking Zoloft and Prenatal Vitamins. After about 1.5 months of finishing the pills I began experience an annoying headache that would not go away. I’ve had it for about four weeks. I’ve been to my gyno, a neurologist and the emergency room and no one can seem to diagnose the problem. The neurologist wrote it off as a migraine. I can’t believe that the head ache is a migraine. I seem to be dizzy and have a throbbing feeling in my temples. My head ct indicated no sinus problems or anything significant. I guess I want to know if it is possible to have hormonal issues when you stop taking the pill. Could the lack of chemicals be causing an imbalance? I am also having an unusual outbreak of zits. The neurologist prescribed Topamax and Imitrex, but what is the point of Topamax if I can’t get pregnant while on it? Neither seems to be working anyway.
I hope you can give me some answers; I am working on my fifth week of pain.
 

emma k
Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

my hair has been shedding for the past five weeks. I'm not counting as I find it too scary. my doctor was not very sympathetic, diagnosing me with TE after a stressful time three months earlier. However, for the past three months i've suffered from an incredibly itchy, flaky scalp. THe doc says these two things are unrelated and has prescribed some tar shampoo. My gut feeling is that the two symptoms are tied up together. I can't afford to visit a dermatologist, but I don't want to leave myself entirely at the mercy of my lazy doctor, so I'm trying to research it myself. Has anyone had a similar experience? And does anyone know whether if the scalp prblem doesn't clear up, nor will the TE?
 

Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

i am experiencing TE and have been for about five months. im noticing some baby hairs, but only in the very front, along my hairline. i dont know why it wont grow anywhere else. i also dont even know if the shedding has stopped. the hairs im shedding have larger, hard bulbs on the end, is that significant?
 

NJA
Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I'm 24 years old and began to notice diffuse hair loss last December following several months of high stress and poor diet. I've had blood work done and all parameters are within normal limits. I take better care of myself now by eating healthy foods, taking vitamins, exercising etc... but I must admit stress is a daily obstacle (graduate student). The overall texture of my hair has changed as well. Now, it seems drier and more prone to tangles. I've noticed the growth of long (some are 3-4 inches in length), very fine, less pigmented hairs. I was wondering if these are vellus hairs implying that those follicles are in the process of miniturizing? Or could this be a sign that terminal hairs may one day return in their place? I'm an incredibly impatient person yet I know that if my body intends to regrow the lost hair it will take time. I guess I'm just looking for some encouragement so any information would be greatly appreciated! Thank you.
 

Tom Hagerty
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

NJA:

Poor diet usually doesn't cause hair loss. A poor diet in America is not like a poor diet in Bangladesh. I'm sure your previous diet had sufficient protein. Stress is not all that bad either if you can cope with it. My occupation was full of stress every day. I thrived on it - no loss of hair either.

You're a graduate student. Of course you're going to be stressed out at times unless your major is basket weaving. Don't stress about your stress.

"I've noticed the growth of long (some are 3-4 inches in length), very fine, less pigmented hairs. I was wondering if these are vellus hairs implying that those follicles are in the process of miniturizing?"

Vellus hairs never grow beyond a half inch and they lack any pigmentation. You might be describing intermediate hairs. This could mean some follicle miniaturization or it could mean that formerly miniaturized follicles are cycling into more robust follicles. Only time will give you an answer to this.

"I've had blood work done and all parameters are within normal limits."

Did you have a serum ferritin test? The normal range for women is between 12 and 150 ng/dl. It's best to have a serum ferritin level of at least 70 ng/dl, though, for hair loss recovery. Premenopausal women who eat very little or no meat have an almost impossible challenge in getting their serum ferritin level up and keeping it there.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 05:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I came back from a 6 week trip to Africa around three months ago. I have experienced diffuse hair loss and itchy scalp. Before the trip I went off the pill and took Larium. I was told by a dermatologist that this is partially hereditary but find this hard to believe, especially since reading these entries. I've also had a conflicting opinion from a trichologist(an auto immune problem). I know there are lots of people with similar stories but I want to hear about recovery ie. how long will it take to get back to full capacity and how can I help it along? I'm only 27 years old - too young to go bald!!!!
 

Tom Hagerty
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Anonymous:

Any age is too young to go bald!!!!

One of the side effects of Larium (mefloquine) is hair loss. Go to www.google.com and type larium into the search box. You'll find several items here that relate to Larium and hair loss.

Larium can treat and prevent malaria but it can also be the trigger for telogen effluvium. If it does trigger TE, you will probably not notice hair loss for three or four months. The hair loss in not permanent but it can take six months to over a year before you start feeling good about your hair again.

If your hair loss is patchy, you might possibly have alopecia areata. This is an auto-immune problem. You probably don't have this.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

hi, i was having hair loss and i got on a vitamin called hair factors. i dont know if it really worked or if it had a placebo effect on me, but you might give it a shot, im noticing tons of regrowth now.
 

Tom Hagerty
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Anonymous:


Go to www.google.com and type hair factors into the search box. You'll find the thread Do Hair Factors work? close to the top of the search results. The messages seem to be honest.

A bottle of 50 tablets from Twinlabs costs $18.00. I'm sure the company offers discounts though.
 

melissa ann
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I have a question about TE recovery.
Five months ago I was diagnosed with TE and it's still shedding with no regrowth. How long can it take to see any regrowth? I have had a lot of changes going on during the five months, ie.new prescription. Could changes prolong the recovery?
 

Tom Hagerty
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Melissa Ann:

If your new prescription drugs alter your hormone balance in any way, this may prolong the recovery from TE. A change in hormone levels can be a trigger for TE, but it can also be a sustaining factor.

Once your physical problems are taken care of and your nutrition is good, the time frame for resolution of TE-related hair loss problem is between 6 and 72 months. That between 6 and 72 months estimate is taken from a textbook. It's a meaningless estimate. An estimate that broad signifies that no one really knows.
 

Tom Hagerty
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

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