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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Does anybody believe in this as help? I was reading a site that said one of the sides of acidity is excessively falling hair.

I was reading on HLH i think... about a man who was highly acidic, went on an alkalizing diet and started seeing his hair grow back in some amount of months. Eventually, supposedly it all grew back too.

Basically, you can find info on alkalizing diets EVERYWHERE online. What it would mainly entail is becoming mostly a vegetarian. How many people can show that much comittment? Although, it is said to help with much more than hair falling.
 

Paul z
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Anonymous: There is some talk that certain dietary habits might aggravate hairloss. I don't know the affects of the acidic verses alkaline diet on hairloss , however, insulin resistance has been mentioned as a cause of hairloss.

Basically, it has to do with a diet high in sugars, carbs, and grains. Excessive sugar intake causes the body's insulin levels to vary too much eventually resulting in Diabetes in some people.
This kind of rapid fluctuation of insulin levels has been mentioned as a aggravating factor in hairloss.
 

jpj
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

fruits and veggies (except for cranberries and the insides of potatoes right off the top of my head) are alkalizing to the body as they have a PH above 7.

The modern western diet has many acidic (and many extremely acidic) things with PH's below 7.

Meats (especially red meats) are acidic to the body (Note: some things like lemon juice appear to be extrememly acidic, but are acutally alkalizing to the body due to their digestion....I know, go figure).

Dairy products are acidic.

French fries (potatoes without thier skins) are acidic.

Colas, diet sodas, are VERY ACIDIC. Ph is way down there on this, around 3.0 or less.

Pastas are acidic, white flour products are acidic.


So if you eat a hamburger on white bread with french fries and a coke (or diet coke) with a chocolate sunday for desert.........you lowered your PH from the normal water balance with all acids under 7.5 or so on the PH scale. The body will have to use its calcium stores in digestion to right itself.

This is why antacids like tums are usually calcium-derived products like calcium carbonate. Ive wondered if by eating so many acidifying foods, we might deplete the body of its calcium stores. Milk, which is acidic, is fortified unaturally with calcium.

It may be coincidental that this acidifying diet will lead to less globulin production (the sex hormone-binder) and would be high in saturated animal fats (might induce more adrogenic activity) and be almost soy-free (no equol produced). Food for thought, pun very much intended.
 

SpaceCowboy
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

jpj,

Would you recommend those combatting hairloss to add equol to their diet? Is it helpful?
 

jpj
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

When soy isoflavones (daidzien is the specific one I think) are digested in the intestines, some of us produce equol as a result of those chemical processes. Most of us, sadly, do not. Only about 30-50% of of people supposedly produce equol in their digestion of soy isoflavones. http://hairloss-reversible.com/hair_news_index/hair_news14.htm There is an article on it.

Its certainly helpful if you make it though.....sort of a "natural propecia".
 

SpaceCowboy
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Gotcha. Is there a synthetic eqoul sold anywhere?
 

jpj
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

no, It would cost alot of money to synthesize something like equol. Being made in digestion of the soy isoflavone daidzen, its probobaly much more difficult to make than finasteride. It is a "handcuffer" of DHT and binds the DHT molecule chemically.....while not lowering its levels in the blood and plasma.

When you think about it though.....it might as well lower DHT levels, if it renders it practically inactive....what could the DHT do anyway? All DHT really seems to do is make you bald and grow your prostate anyhow.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

No, actually DHT is I'm pretty sure a primary player in attaining and achieving erections.
 

Gabe
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

check this out

http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/132/12/3577
 

jpj
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Ive been on propecia for a decade and have NO problem attaining and maintaining erections.

Hard as a rock.....sometimes I wish it would actually go down.
 

jpj
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

furthermore, equol binds DHT so its actually "not-fittable" to receptor sites, and if DHT gave you your erections, you'd lose them with equol. High amounts of Sex-Binding-Hormone-Globulin, which binds Testosterone so it cant be converted to DHT, should pretty much do the same thing. Those vegetarians dont seem to have anything wrong with their sex drive. Pretty sure their globulin levels would be fairly high.
 

Paul z
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

jpj: I've been using Propecia for at least 8 years too and have no problems with the flag pole either. In fact, the opposite. I have a feeling that when there are no side affects, it means the drug is not having a main effect either. Especially since I'm still receding slowly but surely...Perhaps we've grown immune to Propecia.
 

jpj
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Yeah Paulz.....Im kinda the same way until recently when I added a receptor blocker to the mix.

The studies on propecia prove that we responded about the way they told us we would though. More hair for 2-3 years, maintenance for a couple of more, and then a long slow regression in hairs per square inch........about par for the course.

Im still researchin' like a little mad scientist. In some ways man, its absolutely maddening that a man cant pay to have hair on his head. Medical science has failed us. Computer geeks can make computers do things unthinkable 20 years ago, advances in telecommunications, robotics, air travel, other areas of bio-medicine have taken great leaps. But the search for hair........mudstuck. Dammit.

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